If i just choose "on" in the bios for each one they become a "usb or onboard cd rom device" in the boot menu

if i choose raid, they show up as each seperate drive.
and when booting they now show up as sata 2 and sata 3

in device manager they now say scsi device after the name.

there's no option to create an array of course, but was wondering if thats the way to do it.

n/m i'm stressed and not thinking

Were you thinking about RAID0'ing your optical drives eh?

thinking? no. i lost that ability...
but the bios does let you choose the raid option for them and i never had sata optical drives b4.

vista took a dump on itself and i have to re-install it on the deli

happened rright after the dell support utility made a urgent update.
yep, dell coders on the ball

http://home.comcast.net/~moshea/work.bmp